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In a recent interview with Epoch TV’s “Wide Angle” program, Fleming explained the dangers posed by foreign-controlled cell-phone applications like TikTok, which is owned by Beijing-based internet giant ByteDance.
“We must assume,” he said, “that every one of these applications coming from China, Russia, and other declared adversaries of the United States—we have to assume that these applications are weaponized against us.”
TikTok, the hugely popular short-format video app that allows users to create, share and view 15-second videos often featuring singing, dancing, or comedy, was launched in China as “Douyin” in September 2016, and within a year it had 100 million Chinese users.
The app was relaunched as TikTok internationally in September 2017. Attracting dozens of A-list celebrity users, and partnerships with the NBA, NFL, and Comedy Central, TikTok quickly became one of the most popular apps in the world.
By 2020, TikTok reported nearly one billion active users worldwide—less than four years after its launch.
But TikTok may have a dark side. TikTok is a Chinese company, and all the private information that the app is collecting may be fed directly to the Chinese regime, experts have warned, citing a range of Chinese laws that compel companies to cooperate with regime authorities when asked.
“All of your data on that phone,” said Fleming, “everything you do, and everything that you have stored on your phone is being sent out of the country, possibly to be used against you.”
“The Communist Party of China is collecting vast amounts of data,” said Fleming. “It may not be used against you today. But this information might be used against you, your company, or your country in the future.”
A man walks past the headquarters of ByteDance, the parent company of video sharing app TikTok, in Beijing, China, on Sept. 16, 2020. (Greg Baker/AFP via Getty Images)
Awareness of this threat isn’t new. In August 2020, President Trump signed an executive order to ban all TikTok activity in the United States within 45 days if it was not sold by its Chinese parent company ByteDance. Trump signed a similar order against the Chinese-owned WeChat messaging app.
Since then, Trump’s orders have been stalled by several lawsuits and court orders. And in June 2021, the Biden administration canceled the orders, instead directing the Commerce Department to evaluate the platform to determine whether it posed a national security risk.
Now the U.S. government appears to be taking new steps to address the security risks posed by TikTok and other foreign apps, including a proposed rule change to expand federal oversight of foreign-controlled apps. Under the proposed new rules, the commerce secretary would be empowered to restrict Americans’ access to foreign apps considered security threats.
But it may be too little, too late, according to some experts, including Mark Grabowski, an associate professor specializing in cyber law at Adelphi University and author of the newly published book “Cyber Law and Ethics.”
“It is stunning that it’s taken so long for the Biden Administration to conclude TikTok is a national security threat,” he told the Epoch Times. “President Trump tried to address this problem, but unfortunately Biden was determined to immediately reverse everything Trump did—whether it made sense or not.”
For Grabowski, TikTok and other Chinese-controlled apps present an immediate danger to national security.
“TikTok will go down as the most successful data harvesting of Americans ever done by a foreign adversary,” he said. “TikTok is Chinese government malware masquerading as a social media app.”
The logo of the social network application TikTok and a U.S. flag are shown on the screens of two laptops in Beijing, China, on Sept. 14, 2020. (Nicolas Asfouri/AFP via Getty Images)
Several American politicians have voiced the same concern.
“TikTok is owned & operated by a Chinese company & controlled by the Communist Chinese government,” Sen. Rick Scott (R-Fla.) wrote in a September 2021 tweet. “Americans can’t trust & shouldn’t use products or services controlled by Communist China.”
Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.) was even more blunt: “TikTok is a surveillance apparatus for Beijing,” he told the Atlantic in 2020. “It is a Trojan horse on people’s phones.”
The danger, explains Grabowski, comes from the enormous amounts of personal data that TikTok is gathering from each user.
“It can access your camera, microphone, saved photos and videos, contacts, GPS location, and probably also your web browsing history,” he said. “The app collects way more data than it needs to. For example, TikTok does GPS tracking—even though TikTok videos never display any location information.”
This data isn’t just collected on your phone—it is passed on to TikTok’s owners in China, Grabowski added. “All the data collected by the app is encrypted in a way that makes it impossible to know exactly what is being sent back to China.”
“We know that TikTok’s Chinese parent company has access to every American user’s data,” said Grabowski, “and they can search that data by specific IDs, locations and various other queries.”
TikTok has said repeatedly that it doesn’t share American user data with the Chinese regime, and that its data is held on servers in the United States with backup servers in Singapore, not China.
But Grabowski isn’t buying it. “This data can and will be shared with the CCP,” he said.
“If the Chinese government tells a Chinese company to hand over its data, they’re going to do it. China’s National Intelligence Law requires Chinese organizations and citizens to cooperate with the state intelligence work.”
But why would the CCP want American cell phone data? BlackOps CEO Fleming says it’s all about control.
“China is a totalitarian state, completely controlled by the CCP,” said Fleming. “If you are a Chinese citizen, your government runs your whole life. Even when you travel overseas, you have to check in and let them know when you are going, where you are going, and what you’ll be doing. And they’ll let you know when they want you to check in again, and what they want you to do. Every Chinese traveler is considered an asset by the CCP.”
With Chinese apps installed on over a billion phones around the world, the CCP may have effectively turned foreign TikTok users into unwitting Chinese intelligence assets.
“Data is the key to this control,” said Fleming.
Grabowski agreed, saying, “The Chinese government could use TikTok to spread propaganda to Americans, or to blackmail users who regret what they posted.” The data can also help the Chinese regime to find dissenters, political activists, and other enemies of the CCP, he added.
“The Chinese government already uses this information to censor videos they don’t like,” said Grabowski. “For example, TikTok regularly censors videos that mention the Tiananmen Square massacre, Tibetan independence, or the Falun Gong movement.”
“People are extremely naive if they think TikTok is playing nice,” said Grabowski, “They have a long history of documented privacy intrusions.”
For instance, TikTok paid a $5.7 million fine to the Federal Trade Commission in February 2019 for illegally collecting data on children. It also settled a class-action lawsuit by paying $92 million in February 2021. The lawsuit alleged that the platform harvested and shared personal information without users’ consent.
TikTok did not return a request for comment by The Epoch Times.
For Fleming, the stakes are high: “We have to understand, as a free nation, what we are facing. We are facing a world war all over again. An alliance of China, Russia, Iran, and North Korea against the free world. Americans need to become more aware,” he said, “and open their eyes to what is happening.”
“We have to do everything we can to protect our data and our intellectual property. Do not give away your data. Always opt out. And get Chinese apps off your phones and computers.”
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